Tired in Munich

“Goodbye Euro, why Greece must now leave the Euro zone” – a very interesting analysis.

A very short post today.  Our flights last night were good, we got in today, found our way into the city and our hostel, and then went for a walk tonight at the English Gardens, though rain came at the end.    Most of us had Doner Kepabs for dinner and now we’re trying to stay up until 9:00 to avoid jet lag.

Three thoughts occur to me as I read through really solid articles about the current crisis in Greece:

1)  Germany benefits from this in a very real way.    The Euro is weak due to weaknesses in Greece, Spain and Italy.    Germany has a strong, productive export economy and it’s growing.   If the D-Mark was the currency of record for Germany, it would be much stronger than a Euro pulled down by Greece.   That would make Germany relatively more expensive and weaken its growth.

2) There is a real wall of separation between concern for the future of the Euro and concern for the EU.   The EU is safe and still something Germans and Europeans prize.   The Euro is safe among a core set of countries.   Germany will never go back to the D-Mark again, the Euro is the German currency now.

3)  Students note how much less run down German cities are than American ones, and how the infrastructure is strong here.    That’s right – America is in decline.   You notice it when you travel.

Too tired to write more.  Good students, a fun day, and its nearing bed time!

  1. #1 by lbwoodgate on May 15, 2012 - 18:16

    “Doner Kepabs”?

  2. #2 by pino on May 16, 2012 - 18:10

    Students note how much less run down German cities are than American ones

    How many German cities have you come across?

  3. #3 by Scott Erb on May 16, 2012 - 20:11

    Doner Kepobs (or just “Doner”) are the creation of a Berlin Turkish restraunt owner who in the early seventies tried to create a Turkish food that appealed to German tastes (so it was invented in Germany). By 1990 it was all over Berlin, and then slowly worked its way all through Germany. Now they’re all over Europe. They’re a bit like a Greek gyro. You have Turkish bread cut sideways with meat (lamb/beef from a spit), yogurt sauce, lettuce, onions, and tomatoes.) They’re sold at stands all over, very filling but less than 4 Euro.

    Pino, I think I’ve been to every major city but Kiel. The students were commenting on Munich, but as I told them, it’s that way all over Germany. It’s an irony that right now Europe is looking towards Germany for salvation!

    • #4 by lbwoodgate on May 17, 2012 - 00:16

      Sounds great. I love gyros so these ought to suit my taste palate just fine.

    • #5 by Nevzat on May 17, 2012 - 08:07

      Your history is a little off. The doner kebab is a lot older than that and comes from Turkey, since doner and gyro both essentially mean “turn” it is the turning stand of meat originating in Turkey and Greece a long time ago that gave rise to the particular kebab. It appeared almost simultaneously throughout Europe in the latter 20th century in regional variations as Turkish immigrants arrived in various countries in numbers. It is not the creation of a single restaurant and in Europe did not spread out from Germany.

      • #6 by Scott Erb on May 17, 2012 - 11:58

        I’ve been to the restaurant in Berlin that invented the Doner that took off over Germany and Europe. Their claim is that they adjusted it to fit German tastes, and that it took off from Berlin. I’m going to be in Berlin next week, I’ll stop by that restaurant and see if I can get more information. The tourist books also list it as the originator of the Doner.

  4. #7 by Norbrook on May 17, 2012 - 00:51

    One of the things I’ve often lamented about this country is that it seems we’re really good at building or “creating” things, but lousy at maintaining them or replacing them as necessary.

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